Immigrant Money Stories II – From Being Out of a Job for 9 Months to Buying first House

Let me share another story but first……thank you for the feedback on the first immigrant money story I shared.

I am lining up more people across various life statuses and various countries as well.

I met today’s subject in 2021 through a community-like group I have been volunteering with. It has been quite interesting to see how his journey has transformed financially.

Let’s call him Mr Thames.


Profile

Gender: Male

Country of Residence: United Kingdom

Profession: Senior Sales Executive

Why did you choose to leave your own country?

It was not an intentional move. In fact, when I think about it, I would like to say God tricked me because it was not in any plan for me.

I met my now-wife in my home church choir. We clearly liked each other but we didn’t talk about anything romantic for a long time. When we finally did and started dating in 2017, three months later she left for the UK for her Masters degree. For me, at that point, I wanted to further my education or at least get a better job.

About that time I got a job at a consulting big four but I requested to defer it and I chose to go back to school in 2017 for a Masters degree as well. I was able to secure a loan from an individual for the school fees on the agreement that when I started working again I would start re-payment.

I finished in 2018 and went back home to get married to the same lady.

The plan was simple. My wife will go back to the UK, I will remain at home and resume my job at the big four. Nothing worked out that way. Nothing.

First, my wife did a master’s in Public Health so she could switch from pure medicine as a career to Public Health. She finished and started applying for jobs in Public Health but she wasn’t getting offers. So she made the difficult choice of taking the PLAB (qualifying exams for doctors) so she could at least stay in the country along the medical line. She passed and she immediately got a job as a Doctor with a sponsored work permit.

With her work permit, I applied for a dependant visa so I could visit her as frequently as possible.

In preparation for my new job, I had gone home and resigned my former job (they had actually granted me a study leave) and went to visit my wife just before the agreed resumption date. The following week the big four offer was retracted. No actually the resumption of the job was put on hold till further notice for reasons they refused to share.

I found myself in the UK with my wife (newly-wed) with no job or means of income.

Goodness! What a twist!

I was just shocked.

Your life begins as an Immigrant. What happened next?

I started Job searching but the market was brutal! This was at the peak of Brexit. Companies were relocating their headquarters to other parts of Europe, and there were so many uncertainties so employers put hiring on hold.

I had to start the networking activities; attending conferences, connecting on Linkedin, be part of professional calls……everything. This was now 2019.

A few weeks into the year, I got a call from the big four to come back to Nigeria and resume in June. Then they called again to resume earlier in April. At that point I realised I didn’t think properly about how we will run the family from a long distance. So I turned down the offer and decided to stay in the UK

I was more confident in my job search.

But I didn’t get a job until November.

How many months was your job search?

I really started looking for a job like February of that year. Yeah February was when the Big Four told me to come resume and I turned it down. So nine months.

But in that nine months how were you earning? how were you making money?

Great thing is that my wife was earning and we were also very careful with spending. This was our first year of marriage and we lived in a studio with just basic amenities; I mean like bed and then a table/chair, no TV kind of basic. I couldn’t even afford to watch TV anyway.

Everyday, I sat on that table looking for jobs, improving myself, making mistakes correcting myself, signing up for different things. It was just a whole lot of self-development.

I’ve never been tested like that before in my life. I mean when I finished school, I went on to national service, I got into Stanbic Bank almost immediately after. I never really had to look for a job. This was my real test of life, trying to navigate the job market in another country. It was very tough.

You lived on your wife’s income. I mean you just got married! Like brand new marriage! Do you think this affected your marriage in any way or it made you closer to  your wife?

You know what people normally say about your first year marriage; that it is tough, you fight alot etc Infact the mindset is that the first year could be chaotic.

So I was looking for it, I was waiting for it to happen to us considering the additional pressure. But it never came. If anything it made us closer. An adversity that helped us fight as one.

It was a nine to ten-month journey of trying and trying again. My wife was there to keep encouraging me as she held the home income-wise for the period.

What was clear for us was that I was better in handling money, so it was easy for her to allow me make sure that we used our money for the best things. And it was easy for us to manage things that way. We were not stressed.

During that time I decided I was not going to do any of the survival jobs because I kept thinking I am good enough to get a proper job in this country. I didn’t want to settle and then it will affect my mentality in trying to get into the corporate work.

Okay so next question, this first job you finally got, was it at the same level of the last job in Nigeria you left or you had to start all over again?

I had to start again. When I applied for jobs at the level I was told I didn’t have enough experience. When I went for the junior roles, I was told I had too much experience.

It was a sales role; far from my experience of pure finance. But I took it because I had to learn how to talk. At that time, I truly was an introvert.

I know that you’re kind of a manager now, so it has taken you about four years to get back to get back to the same level you were when you left Nigeria.

Actually, there was some drama in that job. I lost it within four months.

Wait what?

Yeah. Looking back now, one thing I will say is, put your best wherever you are no matter the circumstances. You see when I took the job there was another one in the horizon and I was working with the hope it will come through. So I carried the attitude of “this is temporary”. So I gave the wrong impression right from the beginning.

This was plus there was somebody that exposed me to UK work politics. There was this somebody in that team that kept poking me and will go to the manager to tell some funny stories. But the manager will just go ahead and document the things without even asking me. When I challenged it, the manager will then say “oh sorry, this is already recorded. How can I change this now?”

I never had any kpis as I was still onboarding and I thought I was doing well. By month three or so I was having my one on one. My manager was saying you should have been doing this and that within one month. I didn’t have the boldness to challenge any of these things as it was my first job here. I kept going hoping for things to change.

It got worse. It was a very very bad experience. They let me go in February of 2020 as Covid was starting.

To be frank I wasn’t overly pained because this time I was confident; I felt like I’ve done this before.

But the timing was off. Around this time my wife had gotten pregnant and was due soon. She decided on a one year maternity leave because I had got that sales role. This meant less pay. She was getting the full salary for the first three months and then 60% 50% for the next three months then 30% for the rest.

It was going to be back to square one but this time it was going to be three of us living on 30% of my wife’s salary.

One thing I am grateful for is that when I got that sales job I was able to quickly look for another accommodation; a two bedroom because the baby was coming.

What a season…Back to the job market with more domestic pressure.

Yeah. I went back to searching, applying, interviewing.

My wife had put to bed so I was helping her alot and I took time to also volunteer with some non-profit organizations.

I remember I had to speak to my Landlord to discuss a payment plan for our rent. I said to him, “I have lost my job and unable to pay my rent in full but we will pay you 50% of the rent sum every month until I get a job. I can also be sending reports on my job application to show you that actually been looking for a job.”

Imagine moving into a new accomodation and months later, we couldn’t pay. We were running out of cash. Thankfully the Landlord agreed.

I also went back to speak to the person who loaned me money for my masters fees. I had to pause repayment because immediately I got the first job I was paying back but I went back to explain the situation of things and the need for me to pause payment.

In July, I got a freelance role as an operations associate for one of the organizations I volunteered with. Not a lot of money pay-wise but it was good money considering the stage we were. It was an initial contract for a few months but that continued until December of that year.

We began paying our rent again. But we had to also clear our outstanding rent. So we came up with a payment plan with our Landlord to pay a percentage of the outstanding rent every month in addition to the standard rent.

​So the next thing was to focus on house purchase?

We now had a stable income but the first priority was to sort out all debts – rent and loan for masters.

After that, we looked at our finances. I didn’t have to pay back anymore loans, we now have two sources of income that was now a constant flow but I also felt like I was already behind on so many things. I was a little beat up. I knew that we needed to maximize this thing and use it properly because you never know when the season will shift again.

The next things was to attack the goal of buying a house. Because we have always had it as a goal, once I got that initial job in November in 2019, I had started putting away £200 in an account but not the LISA.

Why not the LISA? That would have gotten you more money?

I wanted the money to be accessible so I can have it in case life happened and we needed money. You know the limitation of accessing the LISA.

Yeah. True that.

Even when I lost that job, I insisted that we didn’t stop. But God saved us because we were just looking at the money and could not touch it. We knew we could cut down expenses and live a minimal lifestyle.

Now with the savings combined with the help to buy scheme we had some money to do a deposit and get a mortgage. But nothing else for all the additional cost e.g extras for the house, fees for solicitors & broker…..all those side things that came to almost 5% of the house cost.

Honestly it was a bit of a shocker for us.

They build the house and you have to pay for flooring. For example, they will build the garage quite alright, but everything inside you have to pay for it as extra. There is fridge/freezer, cooking burner and washing machine to buy. My wife even wanted a wood like worktop, we had to pay for that.

We ended up paying this cost from our salaries monthly.

So the next project after the house was visa visa renewals. 

Yep. It’s a lot of money. What we did was instead of spending money on decor for the house, we got the house to a point where it is habitable. We had the basics, windows have curtains etc and that’s all. We moved in and focused all monies towards visa renewals.

See I am a firm believer that God is our source but that also means we can do things with wisdom and practicality. A simple system of putting 200 each pounds aside even in the midst of extreme pain is what has helped us to get things that we have now. Sometimes you don’t got one lump sum from somewhere, that simple discipline turns out something beautiful later.

This conversation will be read immigrants, if you will give them a word of advice or perhaps two things you did wrong that you don’t want them to repeat, what will those be?

Something I did wrong was, I should have fought my mindset at the time I got my first job. I know they did me wrong in a number of ways but this is me being self-critical now because I try not to always put the blame on the outside all the time.

Whatever you get to do, do it well. You must give it your 100% commitment. Let people see you as well being 100% committed the way you are getting the job done. I don’t know if it is just my own personal self-critical experience and I know it might just be that they had their own candidates but I should have done better.

Another thing most important advice I’ll give them, if you are coming over with your wife or husband, whatever you do, make sure one person is working.

I mean a lot of people say that let the spouse with the job go first no matter what it is. And I agree. Because the way this country is, every month you must pay bills. As you land money needs to be spent. Back home you can borrow money and pay your rent in a year so you can rearrange yourself.


When it comes to children that is a different ball game.

You have to think about it well because children will restrict your movements; you cant go out and just work any shifts because somebody has to be with them. You have to think about it well. If you can keep your children with family, please consider it. I mean it’s not easy to give this kind of advice because I don’t know the kind of connection existing at home.

If you have some support and people can help you initially to settle that’s great. At least try and be sure that there is a flow of income otherwise you can put pressure your marriage. I remember my family the period when my mother in-law came during covid, that was a blessing because she was there to help take care of our son. So I could go full out looking for my job. During that period my wife also started baking cakes to sell. We really needed the extra hands.

It’s quite interesting how you managed your journey because people’s marriages would have been destroyed. I mean coming from a place where you were getting offers to a point you were going back to ground zero, somebody telling you’re not good enough too…..it’s great to see where you are now. Thank you so much for sharing.

What is the next goal for you?

I know this is very ambitious, but the plan is to pay off our 35 years mortgage in 5 years. The how, I don’t know, but we will do it!

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Immigrant Money Stories VII: Surviving a Whole Year Without A Job

Today’s subject is my long-time friend and I found some things in his journey quite insightful. Let’s call him ‘Yede’

Profile​
​Gender: Male
​Country of Residence: Canada
​Profession: Architect / Construction Project Manager Turned Business Analyst

Why did you leave your home country?

Honestly, it remains a mystery. At the point we moved there was no pressure for us to do so, in fact, we were doing just fine. Actually, we were doing quite good with no reason to leave.

Two years before if someone had told me, I would move out of the country I would say noway! But the opportunity to relocate to Canada presented itself and we took it. When I say we, I mean my wife, and two daughters.

And so far so good, I have zero regrets about the decision.

Let’s talk about the journey from a money perspective. Funding the relocation of a family of 4 could not have been cheap.

We moved officially in January of 2021. I say officially because a couple of months prior to January we went for something called soft landing i.e we went to Canada as soon as we got our Permanent Residency but for just three 3 weeks to activate our visa and also “spy” the land. On that trip, my wife and I were able to open accounts with some money we had saved and brought with us.

In November of 2020, my wife got a job and left to resume. That way our travel cost was split. Then I traveled with our daughters in January of 2021.

But the bulk of the funds that gave us significant financial stability is the severance pay I got when I resigned from my job. It was quite large and I mean large. For context, we decided to bring the bulk sum into Canada and as I declared it at entry, the immigration officer had to ask me to step aside so they could probe further into the source of the money.

O wow. That much?

Yeah, it was. I honestly didn’t expect it.

But because we came earlier for the soft landing, we immediately decided to save the entire sum as a downpayment for a house. We saved it in a first home savings account (FHSA).

See moves! Even before you landed you had money for a house! But why do you think you were paid so much as an employee?

I can only attribute it to being an employer known to bring value. I was totally committed to making sure my employers could leave me with any task and know it was done. Up till now, and this is almost 3 years later, I still get consulted on things from my former employers.

I guess the one thing I will say to anyone is, whatever job you are in, be that person known to be a value creator.

Good Point!

I am honestly grateful because I hear people’s stories when they land, the difficulties trying to settle, and I really can’t say I understand what they are going through because I truly don’t.

I also brought in some money from the proceeds of the business I set up with my partner before leaving. So while I had the 9-5 job, I also had a somewhat thriving business on the side.

So you could say I was landing with three sources of funds; Savings we had brought in earlier, Severance packages, and Income from my business. We were in such a good financial position that in the first six months, I was living like a tourist until my wife called me to order and reminded me “We live here now”. Anytime we went out, I was shopping! This is even with the fact that I was still converting Naira to CAD. Maybe the weather also caused this because we arrived right smack in the middle of winter so there was nowhere to go really. So anytime we went out, I was compensating.

Thank God my wife called me to order anyway.

For those first six months, I didn’t have a job I was pretty much living the life really. My wife got a job which is why she left before me and so that brought local currency into the household. But I was also still getting money from my business from Nigeria and it was sufficient to pay the bills; rent, utilities, etc and also put our daughters in a Christian private school because that was very important for us. It didn’t leave much after though and this was in those days when it was N262/CAD.

Let’s talk about life when you landed……how was that journey?

I got a job six months post-landing and I decided to work so I could begin to gain Canadian experience plus it also was core to buying a house. Even though we had the deposit, I needed to show some source of income for the mortgage. And of course, I needed to have some extra money. Remember the money I was bringing in prior was just enough for bills and all associated home front costs with nothing to spare.

I stayed at that company for about one year after and I left. I wasn’t enjoying it at all.

We bought our house within the period I was working there though and that is one thing I am always grateful for. It provided the evidence to show we could afford our monthly mortgage debits.

I decided to go back to the drawing board of my career, reskill, upskill, and take appropriate certifications. I pretty much spent the next one year doing that. Meaning I had no local stream of income, I was relying solely on the income from the business in Nigeria. And some grants I was able to access as a student in Canada. And of course my wife’s income for the extra support.

Honestly, I am so grateful for my wife because while I had the money coming in, it gradually became insufficient so she had to contribute much more than usual. She didn’t complain once but from time to time I will hear her just sigh. The financial strain becoming a bit too much for her.

While reskilling and getting certifications, I tried applying for jobs too but nothing was clicking! And this was even with my documented Canadian experience. For better context, I was reskilling and getting certifications in business analysis from core architecture/construction but it took a very long time.

In that season you waited for the job to come through, how did you manage money? Did you cost cut etc?

No, not really.

Aside from the mortgage, the major other cost for us was the children’s school fees. And we were not ready to take them out of the private school.

When I was newly married, one of my cousins gave me some advice. I dont agree with a lot of things my cousin says but this one particularly stayed with me: ‘Yede when you start having kids make sure you give them the best, education-wise. Make sure you send them to a school that will help build your financial muscle right from day one. My advice is that you always send them to a private school. Always.” I really took it to heart. We did this in Nigeria and we continued even when we got here.

As immigrants, it is quite easy to just put your kids in state or public schools because we might want to believe schools in Western countries are good. But there is the question, “What is the lasting cost?”. I must clarify this statement because I can hear people already saying ‘Well are you trying to delegate your responsibility as a parent to the school’?.

That is not the case but the key interactions they make at school also contribute largely to their lives. Let’s look at it wholistically, in a day the children spend less time with you as a parent; in the morning you wake up say 6:30am, you get them ready for school and by 7.30am you are out of the house, they are back in the evening, do a few lessons and then they are back on their beds. So give or take they spend 7 to 8 hours in school and less than 5 waking hours with you as parents.

It is therefore critical you make conscious and important decisions of where they are spending most hours. I agree it doesn’t have to be a private school because all school have their issues. Let’s not digress……….

Before we move ahead, people leave their home country and they shut down their businesses or anything. But it seems in your own case it continued to be a stream of good income for you and the family……

Yeah, that was the other advice my cousin gave me years later. He told me to find a way to have a business or income stream that can continue to feed you in respect of the location or season in life. In fact, in his words “Do not give up your business or the things you’re doing in Nigeria, make sure you still have a foot in because as a man things can change quick! That money that comes in, is still extra even if it adds as little as a hundred dollars.”

I am grateful for my friends and my partner who is holding down things at home. Because these are people of integrity. I am also grateful that I was able to establish some very healthy relationships in Nigeria that are still opening doors for me today. I must admit it’s not something that happens instantly, it took me years of building relationships and consistency of being a valuable asset in whatever business or relationship.

Interesting. Let us come to how life has evolved. You got another job now in 2023 and so what has been the financial journey since then? I am sure your wife is relieved!

O yes. Very relieved. To be fair I was also relieved.

In the course of starting that job, I also set up my business this year. It’s in the first year so it is taking a lot of what should be going into savings at this time because this is the building phase. But if we were to take the business out of the equation for sure we’re saving more. Thankfully the business has been doing well.

I like the fact that you are not allowing the nine-to-five job to deter you from starting a business. The last question is, what is next for you as a financial goal; Do you have a job, a house, and a good business?

That’s a good question and as familiar as the term financial goal sounds, it is something I do really think about if you get what I’m saying.

I would say it is building my business to a point where the business is a valuable entity that is very solid. Right now I see the 9 to 5 job as a means to an end but once the business gets big enough or more like successful enough to allow me to quit my job, I will do so.

That is the one big thing for me.

That’s very very solid actually. On a very last note, what is the financial advice you will give to any immigrant right now?

The very first thing, and this is one piece of advice my director gave me back when I was leaving Nigeria, is to familiarise yourself with the credit system but avoid credit card debt as much as possible.

So let your use of the credit card pay for things you can afford and simply take advantage of the system to build your credit understanding that you pay for things with your credit card but you have the money in your hands to pay back immediately.

I guess related to that is, living within your means! I can’t say this enough. Buy only what you know you can afford. Do not be under any societal pressure to drive any particular car, live in a particular area, or wear designer items. Those things will come but not at the detriment of building a long-term financial legacy for you and your family.

The last one is building a business is the way to wealth. There are many things the government does to encourage businesses, grants and stuff like that so take advantage of them as much as possible. Let that be a focus; open new businesses as much as possible. Not just for the sake of it but as a solution to a problem you have found in your environment and for building long-term wealth.

I am not the best person to teach finance; you know we are learning but so far that is what I have learned.


Immigrant Money Stories VI: Money from the Eyes of the Immigrant’s Child

Another story to inspire you on your immigrant journey.

I really like this one because it is a slightly different pattern to the others.

Let’s call today’s subject “Tri”.

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Gender: Female
Country of Residence: Canada
Profession: Program Manager

The first question I always ask is, why did you leave your own country?

So the main reason was, my parents got a new job opportunity.

If I were to talk about my experience personally, the reason we left was initially because my dad got a job overseas. He got the job when we were really young; maybe I was five or six or something like that. That job took us initially to go stay in Israel for a few years.

It was taking us out of the familiar and that just launched us into living overseas.


So from there where next?

From Israel, we moved to Cyprus.

Cyprus is in the Mediterranean and the reason we stayed in Cyprus was when we got to Israel it was just before the Gulf War and then the Gulf War happened. So my dad’s employers evacuated us to Cyprus. That’s where we stayed for a long, long time before we eventually moved over to Canada.

The story is, we’ve always moved around. But that’s given us a really nice multinational kind of viewpoint, but it also brought a lot of challenges in terms of trying to adapt to different places multiple times.


Yeah, let’s talk about those challenges, because I mean, you’re moving from Ghana to the Middle East to Europe, Europe to North America. It’s like just moving across the world. The only place you haven’t mentioned is Asia.

Yeah. hahaha


I mean, I know you were quite young when you moved, but at some point, you’ll have come into your teens and eventually, you become adults. How was that experience for you?


I would say the Israel one is a little bit vague. I can just remember some important places we went to visit with my parents.


But what I remember about Israel was definitely because of size. I was small and so if I think back on my memories, everything looks so big. And there, that was a real language barrier situation because we stayed in a place called Nahariya, which is close to the Lebanon / Israel border. I think because my dad worked over the border, every day he would have to travel across the border. All I know is that was my first place where it’s like so many different languages thrown at you.


Different accents too?

Yeah


I think that made the experience exasperating when we moved to
Cyprus. Because yet again it was another language, it’s Greek, English, and another one I can’t remember now. The older generation will speak a different language, but the younger generation spoke Greek.

And they were not very many black families that lived there and could share similar experiences. I remember there were, maybe two or three other families that were also from Ghana that were around us. So we kind of all grew up together with the same experience and stuff like that.

Let’s talk about your life as an adult. In the initial years, it would have been Dad and mom financing your life, right?

Yeah they did.

I think my parents tried to instill good money habits and boy did they try!

So the big important thing, my first concept of money was getting some money to give in church. That kind of started early and then maybe high school era I opened my first checking account, a young savers account.

Around that time we moved to Canada and I was like “ohh it’s the summer Mommy find a job”. So as soon as I hit the the legal age that I could start looking for a job I got a job at McDonald’s. That was the 2nd year, and I did that for about a month or two which was hours after school, but the challenge was with the schedule.


We had to take a bus to go to our school about an hour away and then, you know, coming back trying to do homework and work schedules was a bit much. So eventually I guess I had to make the tough decision to put a pause and focus on school.


Thankfully my parents were able to support me to do my first degree. But then my first learning experience would be during my degree. While my parents were supporting me, I didn’t want to always have to go back to them to ask for money for simple stuff. So I got an opportunity to work on campus, work at a theater as an usher; basically just combining studying and working.

But I noticed when it came to money I was really trying to understand the concept of money and saving. It was around this time I got my first credit card. It had a balance of $500 CAD, so I was working with that. I started to get a hang of budgeting.

I remember I couldn’t always join my friends to go and do an activity if it didn’t meet my budget, and then also I needed to plan for maybe the semester afterward. Because with school work, you can’t work as well as many hours.


I was going to ask you, I mean, this was you at UNI already. Was there somebody who taught you or this is something you picked up along the way?


Well, the thing is like, I think my parents maybe tried to teach us, but, they can only teach what they know. What they knew was that; dad was working and my mom was supporting us in the home; they were doing it together. It was like a traditional thing whereby the man was working and the woman stayed home.

Watching how they were trying to raise us on one salary really gave me some ideas. Imagine trying to manage one salary in a foreign land and you have three children. And it’s not like we just went to public schools. So it was a really a lot of sacrifices on their part.

But that taught me that it is really important to prioritize.


They also try to make sure that you try and live within your means. Not get into debt and stuff like that.


Quite impressive. So what happened after Uni?

The challenge was even though I tried budgeting and stuff, right after getting my first big job, I forgot everything about budgeting because it was like ‘ohh now I have lots of money’.

For some reason when I started working, I thought I needed more clothes, my excuse was ‘I am a professional now’. I also thought I needed to set up the place where I was staying as well.

Long story short, I ran up the credit card.

Thankfully I eventually got to my senses! I was able to figure out how to clear the balance and then from then I made sure that I was saving, It is only recently I would say that I started looking at investing. It is really because for so long investing was something very foreign.

O right. Why did it take you so long?


Here in Canada, we have things like mutual funds, index funds, ETF’s and then actual stocks. It just feels too much. So I didn’t really know too much about how to go about investing in the stocks or was thinking the tools we had were very prohibitive or even understand the terms of some of the brokerages one would use.

Do you know they charge per transaction? but I think it’s only recently that I saw that. Oh, and there are some other tools that you can use whereby you know it’s going to be commissioned for you so you can.


So now I put my money there and do some research on the stocks and stuff.

Now that you started investing and what has that journey been like?


It’s been a very interesting journey just because of how the market is going at the moment. But one of the things that I’m looking at is having a short-term or a long-term view.


My short-term view is going to be mainly focused on investing just so I can take the investment increases to live on or do something with. Whereas with the long term, I want to invest in maybe really good quality stocks or ETF and then let it grow over a longer period of time.

But I have found what I really enjoy is doing the research. The research aspect of it is very, very interesting for me and rewarding. While also trying to look at it without being emotional about it.

And let’s talk about income generation for a bit. You have a job but I also know that you now have a business as well?


So for me, what drove it was looking long term long term, how can I increase the amount of money that I was making? And that made me start looking at providing some services for other people so that they will not go through similar challenges that I had.


I chose to help people adapt career-wise and help people really understand that they have a lot of value and skills. Just because they moved to a different country, they shouldn’t discount all of the value and the skills that they have brought with them. I also wanted to teach people, how to present these skills in a nice way so it meets the needs of the employers here.

The way I do that is by offering courses. And then I also do individual sessions but I really want to move more into a model whereby I’m able to help more people, maybe with self-paced courses, and then just kind of support them as they go through the program.

It’s a bit interesting trying to run a business because the thing is I understand the value, but now it’s about tying the value to the benefit that the clients will get and getting paid for it.


Do you think you are going to have more businesses?
I would definitely like more businesses, yeah. But I think I want to move more into, maybe real estate.

Real estate?
Yeah, because I think that there’s a gap. There’s a need for more houses.


Is that specific for your province or Canada as a whole?
It’s all over Canada, I feel. The challenge we have in Canada is the demand; the rate at which they build houses is not fast enough for the number of people that are coming in. And then the people that are moving around Canada as well. I feel like the inventory is not as much as it needs to be to meet the population demands.


Almost last question, I mean you’re doing well these nice days. What is the one goal financial goal that you are looking forward to?

I think that that’s an interesting question.


For me it is about legacy. No matter what I do, I’m not just thinking about myself. I’m thinking about maybe a generation or two after me. Giving them tools that can help them succeed, either financially or career-wise wise in the future.

So I am looking at the financial goal that will be about how much can I leave so that I can leave a good enough legacy for those that come after.


I like that. You are the first person I’m speaking to and the answer is different. Last question, I mean, before we round off, your credit card debt, how did you clear that?

I really looked at my income, I looked at my expenses and then I looked at what are some other ways that I can generate money.

I also started looking at my subscriptions, looking at all those little things that maybe had been added that didn’t need to.


But I looked at my spending as well. I recognized that, there seems to be a pattern. If I am stressed, I went to eat junk food and the reason I was eating junk food is that I didn’t have any food prepared at home So I started doing some meal prep. I got what I needed. Prepare the meals, have it ready, and then have it handy.

I also made sure I didn’t carry my bank card with me so I wasn’t tempted to keep spending.

I looked at some of the things that I had purchased that I didn’t need and tried to sell them on Gigi, Facebook marketplace, and then my old alumni site as well.


So I did some of that, and then I looked at picking up an additional job in the evenings and weekends as well to help with some extra pay to keep reducing the balance.


Thank you so much Tri this was a good conversation.

Immigrant Money Stories V: On the Journey to Purchasing a Passport

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Todays subject is someone I met when she was starting out her career and I’m so proud to see what she has built for herself.

Let’s call today’s subject “Enka”.

Profile
Gender: Female
Country of Residence: United Arab Emirates (Dubai)
Profession: Growth Marketing Manager

Why did you leave your own country?

Why did I leave……

I am going to start by saying I was always an advocate of country will always be my place of residence and nowhere else. My plan always was, I would travel to explore other countries but Nigeria will always be home for me. 

I believed that Nigeria was going to be great. I really did believe.

Then 2020 happened. October 2020.  

Do you mean #EndSars protest?

Yes, the #endsars protest and what happened on 20th October, 2020. 

That was just one of it, another reason I left was nothing was working anymore: Security, Depreciation of the currency, Electricity, life’s basic needs increasingly becoming difficult or too expensive to access. It all just seem to be getting worse. 

I will give you an example; dollar exchange rate was  N365 to a dollar in March 2020 and just a couple of weeks later it became N400+ to a dollar. It hasn’t stopped spiraling out of control since then.

Then with the pandemic it all became obvious we were all one disease away from being wiped out. And this is happening with the supposed leaders we had. And much later in the year of 2020, the protest happened, leaders gave orders for people to be shot at! I mean actually shoot at youths calling for a better system! Who does that?

I decided it is time to leave. 

To be fair, these are good reasons. So how did you decide on Dubai?

My brain works in a very weird but particular way.

I knew I didn’t want to go for a master’s degree. I also didn’t want to go somewhere  I didn’t have a job or I willl go there and start hustling. I mean I had a very good job in Nigeria. Very good one and I was doing financially okay.

I also didn’t want to go to a cold country. Hahaha.

After some research I decided to focus on Dubai; those in my line of work; digital marketing, were in high demand.  And it was one of those countries that getting an offer from Nigeria was possible back then, difficult but possible.

I put all my eggs in one basket with this one. I didn’t even bother trying other countries at all. It was Dubai or nothing. And I also had a friend who was living in Dubai already with his wife who really encouraged me as I started on the journey of finding a new life in Dubai. They gave me really good tips about applying for jobs.

What kind of tips?

The wife in particular taught me the trick of applying for a job, then going on LinkedIn to search for a senior person(s) in that role or HR manager in that company and then send a message letting them know you applied for that role.

I also had an excel sheet that I documented all my applications; company name, role, date of applications and sometimes names of the hiring manager. 

I treated the whole thing like a second job.  I still had my 9 to 5 job and I made sure I played to the Dubai work week pattern then of Sunday to Thursday. So from Friday Afternoon till Sunday evening, I spent all my free time applying for jobs.

But despite all the consistent hard work…..no positive results. I either got the standard “Unfortunately….” email or I went through interview stages and then told they went with someone else. Some of these roles were ones I am very sure I was overqualified for.

I remember one of such jobs, was a role that my friend in Dubai sent to me. Infact he was one of the hiring managers and we thought this was surely a done deal and I was just going through the stages for formality. Alas he called me and told me his bosses approved hiring of someone else. Honestly, I was distraught.

But I had to solider on. At this point I had a folder with nothing less than 100 versions of my CV that I had tailored specifically for every role I had applied for. It was a lot of work! You know when they say looking for a job is like a job in itself? Yep that was exactly how it felt…

And then I planned I will move to Dubai for 3 to 6 months with a visiting visa to go and search for a job from within.

How were you going to fund that?

When I made the decision on Dubai, I started converting my savings to dollars and as at this time I had saved about $10,000. I started selling off my things, furniture, home appliances etc. The final plan was to sell off my car once I was ready to fly out. With my projections I would be leaving with at $22,000.

That’s sizeable.

Yeah. And I knew I would need to live quite frugally too so the money can last long.

So what happened?

I cant remember exactly when but a couple of weeks later you sent me this role with the global streaming company. I read it and told myself no way will I get it so why bother. But then another friend sent it to me. I said you know what, I will just apply and expect the rejection email.

But I was shortlisted for an interview and then was told there would be 6 interview stages including presentations etc. But that turned into 11 stages!

11 stages?

Yep. 11. Apparently by stage 6 they were down to 2 candidates, myself and someone else. The bosses determined they needed more people to be part of the selection process.

I got the job. And it was a very very good one. Aside from the very cushy pay package, they paid for my relocation cost to Dubai. Initially, because there were still some travel restrictions I was flown to Kenya and housed for 2 weeks. All expenses paid.

And then to Dubai all-expense paid including one month of housing paid and then handed over to a real estate company to sort my house search. Very Bougie style! Hahaha

What do you mean?

Anytime this company wanted me to go for a house viewing, they came with a sleek range rover to transport me. I felt like a VIP most times.

Bougie Much!

I know right.


So I know there was a talk of moving your role to South Africa. So how did you navigate that?

Yeah. Okay so now…….

Sorry sorry before we do that, how much were you saving from your income and what were your investment choices?

I have always been saver from with my nine to five incomes. Before Dubai I always saved at least 30% of my income and getting into Dubai I was awash with money.

So I automatically saved more, that increased to 50%. I only live on 50% of my income now. The rest of it goes into savings and investments.

Remember I had $22,000 saved prior moving and then I received some good money from my employers as part of my relocation bonus. This meant I had about $35,000 in loose cash. I had to seek out investment advice so I could make the right choices with where I put in my money. I contacted an investment company and got some advice from a finance advisor.

Did you have to pay? And what did the advisor say?

O yes, I paid but it was tiny sum compared to the money I had to invest, and it was one off. I saw it as an investment for my finances. The advice was to do a mix of mid to high-risk investment; Index Funds, Real Estate, Cypto etc. 

I immediately started investing in Index funds mostly called s&p 500 up until today and they are all in the US.

Nothing in Dubai?

No nothing in Dubai for now. All in the US.

But Real estate is a major plan for me now in Dubai. I was given an eviction notice from my current flat because they owner wanted to sell. I decided to buy it and this is in the works. I have reached out to my bank for a mortgage and they have come back to me with how much maximum they can give me and  it was very enough to cover what I wanted.

Ok now back to you losing the Job that brought you to Dubai.

Right. Yes.

My employers had a reputation of retaining talent no matter what. Unfortunately, the global technology layoff came calling, and that came with restructuring of my team. This restructuring meant my role was moved to South Africa with a 75% pay cut.

To be fair while I interviewing, they did mention the role is originally supposed to sit in South Africa and will eventually move there at some point. No timelines given.

My manager, bless his heart, tried to push for my role to remain in Dubai but it was shot down fast. Moving to South Africa with that pay cut was not an option for me so I let them know I was happy for my contract to be terminated. They gave me until December 2023.

And so the job search began again. With the global brand on my CV I did get interviews but was not clinching the job either because they went for someone else or they were not able to match my pay. In fact more than half of the time it was because they could not match my expected pay.

By end of December, I still didn’t have a job and was now officially out of a job. With the Duabi laws I had between 30 to 90 days to find a job or I had to leave. In January of this year the global streaming platform put me on a contract for 3 months for a particular project. Honestly those guys came through for me.

Every day of that 3 months was nerve wrecking because I knew I had to find a job asap or at least before the 3 months contracts ended. Thankfully I got a Job offer at the end of March 2023. The company not only matched my pay expectation, they added some more on top  it as well. And the role was actually a promotion because now I am covering and responsible for all the markets they have operations in Africa.

Whew. Thank God!

Yes o. I prayed like never before. Going back home to Nigeria was not an option and still didn’t consider any European or North American country.

How is the role going?

Very good actually. I am enjoying the challenges and knowledge that comes with it.

Apart from the property purchase that is in the pipeline, what is like the next big financial goal for you?

Buying another nationality passport.

Huh?

Hahaha. Let me explain that better. No matter how long I stay in Dubai I can never be a national. What you guys call permanent citizen in other countries

So I know the passport I currently have is one of the weakest in the world at this time. But there are other countries with relatively strong passports offering immediate citizenship if I invest some sizeable sum in their country.

I have therefore set it out as a goal. As soon as the house sale is done, my next goal is citizenship of another country.

So leaving Dubai is out of the question?

O no. I loveeee Dubai and definitely not leaving anytime soon.

Thanks Enka!

Immigrant Money Stories IV: From Being a Homeless Immigrant to Working with A Big Tech Company

Another story to inspire you on your immigrant journey.

I asked our last subject if I could speak to the guy she referred to in her interview, and he agreed. And he also agreed to share his immigrant journey.

Let’s call today’s subject “Oti”.

Profile
Gender: Male
Country of Residence: United States
Profession: Program Manager

The first question I always ask is, why did you leave your home country?

Hmm where do I start from?

I left in 2014 December. But the desire to go abroad and experience life outside of what I knew started from many years ago when I started learning to read and write in English from about 9 years old.

I grew up in a town in Osun state, Nigeria and until my parents moved to Lagos state. We were an aspiring middle-class family money wise so the cheapest way for me to engage with anything at all outside of my environment was books. I read everything readable. Not being able to speak English I couldn’t even interact with people so I just used to listen to my friends talking and I couldn’t contribute much. While my friends had visual representations of what abroad looked like, I had to use my imagination a lot. I could story map everything as I was reading, I had to create things in my head.

So I always desired to see what the real thing looked like. I didn’t want to just imagine it anymore.

When I was in secondary school, I saved some money and wrote the SATs exam without telling my parents. I used that to apply to a lot of schools. This was back then when schools sent brochures across the world for intending students. I remember I used to get a lot of mails addressed to me at home and my family was wondering what was going on. I applied to the University of Washington and the University of California, Berkeley because I still wanted to go to the United States.

Nothing came out of that really.

I went to University at home and started working with one of the major telecommunications company in Lagos. Then again I started reading a lot about investments; this was my introduction days to Crypto: Bitcoin, Ethereum and the likes. At that time these were things that I couldn’t do in Nigeria. For instance I will dig deep about buying a particular type of stock, gain a lot of knowledge but do nothing with it.

Fast forward to 2010, I took the GRE exams but did nothing about it until 2014. A couple of conversations and events, I took the bold step and moved to the United States for a Masters Degree.

How did you fund the masters degree and your cost of living?

It was not an easy ride and so many stories to get me to the finish line but I will share as briefly as I can.

My course was four semesters and I had saved some money from my paid employment. But it was not scratching the surface.

After some research, I found out that American citizens paid a subsidized fee versus what international students paid(Resident vs Non-resident tuition). So I applied through the course advisor and requested to also pay the discounted sum. They agreed under a condition, I would pay the full fees for the first term, then I must get a grade of at least 3.3 after my first term. On that premise I can then pay the discounted fees for the rest of my course by maintaining a 3.3 CGPA.

Now the United States school system also had a loop-hole I could take advantage of. Because most of the students went to University funded by federal student loans which took some long processing time from the government, the university allowed them to start and take classes for the duration of the full term/semester without making any initial payment. This also applied to international students. The only caveat is that you would not be able to register for the next semester due to financial hold. This is unlike the United Kingdom schools, this meant I didn’t need to pay any deposit for fees to start a semester.

The last bit that made everything align for me; I was supposed to resume in September of 2013 but the visa processing was late so I was advised to resume in January of 2014.

So I went to school without paying a deposit, went ahead for the full first semester and wrote my exams and got my results well above the agreed 3.3! This meant I didn’t need to pay anything from January all the way to August. (I didn’t take any courses during the summer (May to August) so I took different jobs on campus- IT helpdesk, Laboratories etc”.

I also took on some tutoring jobs – teaching maths and science courses to high school kids. By the time the second term started, with the money I had saved before school, I had enough to pay my fees for the outstanding first term with the discount applied. I was now ready for the second semester with little to no money. You are eligible to get a proper job outside the school system after a full semester.

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O nice! That really worked out well for you!

Yeah but then things got even more difficult, there is always the next huddle.

How do you mean?

After paying the outstanding fee for the first semester, summer was over so I was limited in the number of jobs I could do (20 hours) . I mean I had a job but the income was just barely enough to cover my expenses. What I had was not enough to register for the third semester of school (or clear the second-semester fees).

The first plan was to access 25% of pension in Nigeria (the criteria is that you must have been out of a job for more than 6 months to legally access the money) Even that was not enough. The exchange rate from the Naira had shifted so much, the sum it would amount to was a mere percentage.

Calling mom and dad was definitely out of the question. The last time I called them for any financial support was at the beginning of my final year in undergraduate school so doing so at that time was not going to happen. But I just didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t sleep or function properly.

As the due date to pay my fees approached, I called up a friend and shared my predicament with him and he immediately said “Why didn’t you call me since??! The solution is easy. Just write a letter to the president of your school and make sure you emphasize the issues you are facing with the currency devaluation at home and all the struggles. And state that you will like to be paying about $400 monthly until you finish paying.

Guess what? I did exactly what he suggested, and the president replied saying the university has been made aware of the exchange rate issues in various African countries. They recognize how difficult it has been for students so rather than pay $400 monthly, he was recommending I pay $300 monthly. It was such a huge weight on my shoulders. I remember calling up all my friends in other schools that were international students and telling them what to do immediately. It was a miracle

That was how I got through to the end. By the time I finished school, I still had about $13,000 in outstanding fees. The school allowed me to write the final exams. For a few students, their schools held onto their certificates till they paid back all the owed tuition.

What a Journey! How did you navigate the job market after school?

It was very very rough for the first few months. About six months.

I still had the job from my school days but I lost it because of work permit. I had to get it renewed after school but instead of the standard 90 days, for some reason, the processing time took way more than 90 days. My office had to let me go. By the time my tiny savings was depleted, I had to let go of my flat and ended up staying on a friend’s couch. At some point, his family came to visit from India, so I had to leave and I started staying in my car for another couple of days until another friend came to help.

Listen! It was rough!

Those days I questioned myself and the decisions I made. I was hustling just to survive. While in school, I had started scalping; buying tickets of popular sport games at low prices and re-selling them at a high yield all on online, I signed up to various freelance sites but these two https://fieldnation.com/ and https://www.mindsumo.com/ were life savers. I was lucky to get some jobs that kept me afloat. I also tutored other immigrants who were trying to write their GEDs.

In all of this I kept applying for roles and was not getting anywhere. There were interviews but no offers because companies were not interested in filing for work visa. Looking back now, I realised the city I was in was the problem. As much as my engineering friends could get roles in an Automobile city, my own skill set was not in high demand in the city I was in. I moved to another city and within weeks I got three job offers.

I will tell anyone this “move to larger cities, move to where your skillset is in high demand.” The job I eventually settled for agreed to sponsor my work permit but the pay was not great and it was a tiny company but I took it anyway. About 2 months in, I was looking forward to finally filing for the work visa (I had been working on student visa – allows STEM students to work for 2-3 years upon graduation) when I got a call for an interview for a contract(temp) position at a big tech firm. It was a 16 month contract job from one of the major tech companies and they also offered the role with visa sponsorship. I knew it was a big risk considering this was a contract role vs the permanent one I already had that was about a month to my filing. I took the interview but I was not selected . 2 weeks later, I got a call from the contracting company and they wanted to consider giving me the role again. This time, when I joined the call for the interview, they didn’t realize I was on the bridge call already and I heard the hiring manager say “whatever Oti says, just let him know he has gotten the role and he has nothing to worry about”.

I have never been so happy In my life.

I really needed a big name on my CV. I remember when I was in Nigeria I got a job offer from KPMG on two different occasions but I turned them down on both occasions because the pay offer was lower than I was earning. I should have taken the offer because having the global brand name on my CV would have been of immense advantage in a foreign market.

After the 16 months contract, I started interviewing again but at least I felt like I had one leg in plus the experience. I got an offer from a big tech organisation but due to some restructuring, the company rescinded their offer a week before resumption and I was out of a job again.

Disaster!

I tell you! It felt like a never-ending circle of me not catching a break. Eventually, I got a permanent role with the same big tech organisation. This time it came with all the benefits including a green card.

That ended well…. whew. What has your financial journey been like since then?

I mean first all of all as soon as I got the job, I got a credit card and used it to pay off my outstanding school fees. But I have since cleared the credit card debt.

I started to invest heavily in stocks, securities, bonds digital currencies…….you name it. Finally, I could now put into practice everything I read about and continued to read about.

Real Estate?

Buying real estate is not a priority for me.

Even a residential one?

For a long time, I wanted the choice of the house I buy for me to live in to be done in collaboration with whoever I marry. This hasn’t happened so I finally made the decision to go ahead and buy one. The legal proceedings are in progress.

I totally agree that real estate makes good financial investment, but for me it is not an immediate priority. I will eventually add a number of them to my portfolio but for me right now, it must be funded by other streams of income.

O nice. So, what would you consider a priority or what I will call a major financial goal for you?

I want to own a bank.

Wow.

Yep! Not necessarily a commercial bank. It can be a microfinance bank. I want to own an institution that is the powerhouse of businesses and economies. I have always dreamed of this, and I am actively working toward this.

How?

A friend and I have been able to set up a co-operative of some sort for our university class alumni. We raised all the funds from the class and have been managing it quite well.

Plus I make strategic investments now. Aside from the stocks I buy, when I listen to the news I am listening for the opportunities. For example, the Olympics games will be held in the city I live in, in the year 2026. I have been actively researching the organizations that will be suppliers, vendors etc. They are currently building a 70,000-person stadium in a town; this means businesses will spring up all around it. These are the ones I am investing in now long-term.

I still do scalping but now with bigger events and I play more long-term strategic goals.

Good Stuff. My Last question…..any advise for other immigrants like yourself?

Hmmmm.

I will say this, be where the right information is. Speaking to you now, I look back at my journey and what has propelled me forward is information. Getting the discounted fee for my masters degree, knowing that when I write to the president of my university I would be able to pay monthly, the decision to move to a new city where my skillset is in high demand………. so many others I had to skip because of time.

Your progress in any new country is about the quality information you have access to and what you do with it. To be honest it all boils down to the quality of people you surround yourself with. It is what they know that they will share.

Information gets you ahead. The right information gets you to the top.

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I am not a financial expert. Far from it. I am just your average girl who uses money as a tool to thrive in the new country and is willing to share my lessons as I go along.

Immigrant Money Stories III: The Single Girl’s Immigrant Journey

Let’s call today’s subject Queen.

Profile
Gender: Female
Country of Residence: Canada
Profession: Product Manager

The first question I always ask is why did you leave your country?
The one thing that I can sort of say is, the Hunger for some kind of exposure.It was a desire I had right from my undergrad days. I always wanted to do my masters degree abroad and I remember going to one of these international school/educational fairs in Lagos and this was after my NYSC. I went so I could just find out details about getting the masters and then I completely forgot about it. I mean at that point I realised I needed to get real, it wasn’t like I had the money to pay for any international degree.

So I got my first job in an investment management firm and as God will have it, it was in that work experience I got exposed to a lot of tech innovation from a fintech investment perspective.I saw how much exposure people from advanced economies like the US, UK etc had; people who schooled or worked there. They just had the level of exposure and expertise that they brought to those conversations in the office that I told myself “I really want to be like that.”

A friend that knew I was looking at international schools sent me a link to Carleton University for a technology innovation management masters program. I applied and it was the easiest application and the shortest admission process time. I resigned from work and left Nigeria.

How did you fund it?
I have a weakness, I am not a very good planner. When I got the admission letter, I saw it was a year program and I just concluded without finding out how many terms it would really take. In my mind, I would only do two terms in a year.

When I got here, I quickly realised that the shortest time I could actually do my program was four terms so I needed more money for at least two more terms than I planned for. I just prayed and decided not to worry. I remember being in a conversation at the time with a guy who actually had to withdraw for a while from the program because he couldn’t afford the next term’s fees; I got home and I was just scared. I remember after praying, I got a scripture that spoke to that fear and that really changed it for me honestly.

This is how I got the balance; while I was in school I decided to volunteer with my program for an administrative-like role so I could keep abreast of my technical skills as I searched for paid employment. I spoke to my program director and coincidentally that was the first time they actually wanted to employ students for a research study he was running. The plan was to volunteer but another immigrant (a guy from Jamaica) and I instead got paid employment; an initial contract for 6 months to begin with.

It was just miraculous because I could survive every day and also save from that job.I didn’t have to do any other kind of work.

I was saving money and at one point in time after the first winter term I decided I was going to skip the summer term and get another job so I could earn and save up more for my tuition because in Canada during the summer if you are not schooling you can work more than 20 hours. But then, my director just called me and was like “Oh you know what? There is this government-funded research I want you to be part of and there’s a related course that I’m actually going to teach in summer and I want you to take that course in summer”. I told him I didn’t plan to take summer courses because I’m trying to save up for my school fees balance. He told me not to worry but to sign up for the course. Somehow he was able to move things around and get me funding for that summer term from an entrepreneurship funding program for start-ups. With that job and tuition assistance, I paid for summer, fall, and the second winter term; which was my last term.

At some point, I was short by $300 to complete my tuition with the deadline very close by but again miraculously a couple that were friends of mine gave me the money to pay off.You can call me a miracle magnet! HahaWhen we say your lines are falling onto you pleasant places, now I have life experiences of what that means.

Indeed, so many miracles on your journey. You have gone to school, you’ve had a job that paid your fees so no debt coming out of school, what then happened next?
I was still working on a contract with that program. Interestingly the contract was getting renewed every three months which caused a bit of anxiety because, after every two to three months, I’d wonder if my contract will be renewed. But I worked there for almost 10 months th after school.I finished the winter of 2016 and I was still there but then I decided I needed to start looking for a job because I wanted to step into private for-profit sector work.

During my job search, I realised a lot of the job deliverables I had done in previous work experience were partly product management. So I wrote out my CV, highlighting my non-official product management experience and I got an opportunity to interview for a junior product manager position. It was a good first interview with the hiring manager and he gave me an offer only a few days after the interview.

And the offer came in February 2017. At that time the program I was working with had already renewed my contract in January to the end of April but I decided to resign and let them open up the position for another international student to take the job.I went on to resume the role as a junior product manager. The salary was again just okay. I had to look at the bigger picture, to be honest. Another reason I had to resign from that program from the university was I needed to start accumulating time for my permanent residency application.

Frankly, it’s always easier to find a job when you have a job.

The junior products manager role was your first official job?
Yes, I was there for a little over 2 years. In early 2019 I started feeling unsatisfied in that role but I didn’t think it was time for me to leave. Interestingly in April 2019, a former colleague of mine reached out to me and said “Hey they’re looking for a product manager where I am, are you interested?” I was like no I’m still learning, there is a lot I need to learn, I am not ready to move, I’m focusing on learning right now. He said okay.

I didn’t know what was coming.

In May 2019, I got laid off from that junior PM role. According to them, it was supposed to be a temporary layoff but with no definite day of returning I don’t know why that really devastated me but it made me reassess my life’s work and value. Thank God for things like employment insurance that Canada has and the fact that I was living well within my means.

I started the job search again a week after the layoff. The company where that guy had reached out to me was still looking for a product manager and I applied this time. There were a lot of companies as well that called me for interviews. I did go for a number of them but eventually, two companies were at the very top because I kept moving on from stage one to stage two and so on.I actually preferred one of them over the other. When I went for the interview at their office I really loved it and started to imagine working there. So I kept moving from stage to stage with both companies. My mind was really into that one.

I can’t remember the day of the week but right after I woke up and prayed I checked my email. The other company that I preferred sent me an update, a rejection email; “unfortunately, there was another person blah blah blah”

Just before the time I got laid off, I had planned that I was going to travel to a couple of European countries for vacation. My visa application was in progress when the layoff happened and as I looked for a new job I decided I was going to travel still. I will collect the visa and travel using some of my savings. Whenever I get a job I will start saving again.

Just as I decided I was definitely going on that trip after the rejection I checked my email inbox again and I had an update from the other of the two companies. They wanted to speak with me about an offer.

There was some back and forth with what they were offering but finally arrived at something almost $90k CAD and that was almost a $30K jump from the job I lost. But he was going to offer me maybe almost 10K less than that or so. I thankfully had learned to negotiate before jumping on any offer (even though I was really jobless and could have been desperate)On negotiating job offers, I always remember the parable Jesus told of a Man who employed servants at different times and paid them the same wage – based on what he and they agreed upon. Based on this parable, I tell myself to better insist on getting what I would not later resent my employer for because when you get in, you will most likely hear of other people’s salaries that might be much better than the offer you accepted and you don’t want to be resenting them or your employer.

You have been in that same company since?
Yes

Have there been any promotions?
No promotions but there have been pay increases each year. To be honest with this role/job and looking forward, career-wise, I am looking for opportunities that fit (in terms of responsibilities, problem space, etc) rather than job titles that sound good. So for me its a case of “do I really want the job title or I’m looking for the responsibility that gives visibility and significance?”

I know you bought a house. How was that journey?
That was an interesting one. So in 2018 I really started investing in stocks and yes saving.

What percentage of your salary were you saving, and investing? Also what kind of stocks were you buying?
Let me see; so my biggest cost was just my rent. I was staying in a low-rent basement apartment for the longest time. It wasn’t the very best, to be honest, but I just stayed there to be able to save more.

So, I was able to get my rent and utilities somewhere between 30 and 40% of my earnings and so could save up and invest a significant percentage (after living expenses and giving)I was saving for most of 2018 & 2019 i.e pre-covid. I also spent a lot of my free time researching companies I was interested in.

Also, importantly, there is a close friend of mine that I was always talking about companies and investments with. We discussed innovative companies, their valuation and recent IPOs mostly.. He works in the US and so we were always putting our ears down and trying to find out what companies were doing. And so based on some research, we bought stocks here and there.

He actually had more of a risk appetite than I do so he was more bullish in his approach than my conservative self. In things like crypto, I was conservative about it because I didn’t understand it and did not invest in it. I simply didn’t see the value crypto was creating for users at the time, all I saw was money exchanging hands but no solution, product, or value was being created.

I don’t regret that decision to date. I was always trying to look for companies that I believe in, that I saw what they’re doing. I mean there are some stocks that I still have to say that those companies are still good to believe in. Let me give you a good example of those; Blackberry I still believe in. They are not just phone sellers, they are also doing cyber security which will always be relevant and they are actually advancing there so it’s going to be a long ride. (Disclaimer – not a financial expert 🙂 )

In February of 2019, I started looking at Shopify because I really really liked what they did. I even interviewed with them and got rejected. But I remember praying on a Saturday and the thought I had was “If you believe so much in their mission, then why don’t you invest in them?” and so I got a few of their stocks too. When covid happened, I slowed down on buying any company stocks and I stuck with index funds and that’s mostly what I bought all through 2020/2021.. Instead of buying company stocks, I started focusing more on index funds. I’m not good at speculation so I started playing it safe during the pandemic.

That formed essentially the deposit for your house.
Yes absolutely. The truth is I always wanted to buy a house as far back as 2019 but at that time there was a subconscious belief in me that as a woman, buying a house when you’re not married was somehow. So, I had settled for the dream of buying my first house with my husband.

Buying a house pre-covid was the best time but I didn’t buy. By 2021 house prices had gone up. Then 2022 happened and honestly the catalyst for me buying a house you won’t believe it, I was in a relationship that I thought would end in marriage but it ended. So for me, it was heartbreak that pushed me to move forward. I was just in a bad place emotionally and my lease was going to be up. In my mind I had planned to leave where I was staying at the end of June and had informed my landlord; via email.

By the time the relationship ended I was actually going to change my mind and extend my lease instead. I told the landlord to extend my lease but it was too late as he had already arranged for a new tenant – he was probably happy that I was going to leave because I was paying him the same amount for the past four years so the moment I told him I wanted to leave he had the opportunity to increase the rent. So I had to leave but the prices of rent I saw for one or two-bedroom apartments were just ridiculous. It just didn’t make any sense. I then decided to have a realtor get me a house to buy while I took a sublet for a few months until the house closed.

Buying a house was something I had put off for like two or three years prior and it happened in like two to three weeks. Now, looking back and I am like why did I not do this earlier on? But as the saying goes: “never let your crisis go to waste”; this was me living this out.

I finally saw it as a good financial decision. It is not just a house but an investment. And as a single woman, it is an advantage, not a disadvantage. It also means anyone I am meeting now is meeting me at a good financial level and we should be joining “forces” to do greater things.

And yes, , it would have been great to have a partner to share the bills with, because my God, the first few month’s bills were no joke. Even to save money was so tiring but now, I realise it’s actually a good thing because before I had this as an investment, I had “idle” money in savings and then you know people just asked me for money and I would just give even if it meant not spending on myself.

Thank God I started saving and buying stocks because If I didn’t buy then I would not have been able to buy the house. Now I am a better receiver rather than the person that just gave, gave, and gave. It has made me humble enough to receive. If anyone gives me $50 now I will pray for you because there are a lot of bills. Haha

The other day my other sister who works in Nigeria, our last born for my birthday bought me a Disney ticket and I gladly collected it. It’s not like I still don’t give but I don’t have as much idle money lying around. Another benefit of buying the house is that I’m also learning how to take care of things and really maintain a house because when I was renting, I just made a call to the landlord whenever any repairs are needed, but now It is my business to take care of.

If I ask, as an immigrant in Canada what is the one thing you will say to other immigrants?
I think the first thing I would say is guard your heart. I guess what I mean is immigration is actually a very defining/redefining process. I mean, when I lived in Nigeria around my family, there were some things that were just on auto-pilot and that’s the case if you live in the same environment where you grew up in. You are comfortable even when things are tough because you’re still in a bubble of family and friends that you’re not very appreciative of.

When you move to a new country, it’s like you are given this blank slate and all of a sudden everything that used to be on auto now requires you to define them right. All of a sudden I have to go search for a church and make new friends because the ones I had from growing up are no longer there.

Who do you expose yourself to? what information are you exposing yourself to on a daily basis and from what people? You need those things/people to be right because your decisions and actions will just flow from your interaction with them naturally. I talk about this friend of mine with whom I discussed investment a lot and was really majorly what we were talking about for years and because of that relationship, I always paid attention to the stock market and investment opportunities.

So guard your heart and surround yourself with the right people and the right information, especially as an immigrant. You have a blank slate now, you get to define who you surround yourself with and what kinds of information you expose yourself to. Those are the most important for an immigrant.

I’ve learned a lot from you in this conversation. The most profound one for me is “Do I really want the job title or I’m looking for the responsibility that gives visibility and significance”

Thank you so much again.

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Immigrant Money Stories I- From Being A Student To A Millionaire in The UK

I started sending out a weekly newsletter to immigrants about money in January of this year. I basically send all the money lessons I gather as I go on in my own immigrant journey.

The reason is simple. I love seeing and reading about immigrants who made that very difficult life decision to move and settle in another country. Then being successful while at it.

I started something different in the month of May. I started interviewing other people and sharing the conversation with everyone who subscribed to the newsletter.

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See the first story below.

Profile
Gender: Male
Country of Residence: United Kingdom
Profession: Accountant and Entrepreneur

Why did you choose to leave your own country?
It was for two things; I wanted to progress. I wanted to go for a postgraduate degree and at the same time I wanted to get international work experience.

Okay so it was a career move really?
Yeah mostly

Why did you say mostly?
At the time I had a lot of focus/interest on academics and so I was toying between going into pure academics and also considering advancing my banking career. While I had those two objectives in mind as my why, when coming I came on a work visa……


Wait, you came on a work visa?

Yes! back then the rules were different than now. I came on the highly skilled program general program, kind of like a point-based system where you are assessed on your current work experience, qualifications and if you meet certain number of points.


All right okay so your journey was different….
Moving forward when I came with my work permit, I went to school for a Masters degree in Economics. I had savings from working in Nigeria but it wasn’t a smooth journey.
While working in Nigeria I saved up. I mean in hindsight I made the terrible decision of investing the money in Nigerian stocks. I liquidated part of the stocks before I came which I used to pay for my school fees, but once I arrived here, because I got here in 2008, the financial crisis hit and basically all the stocks went to zero.


I had paid half of the school fees before I traveled and now with literally no money left and with the balance to pay I had to get some kind of work to survive. So I got two jobs. School and 9-5 in the daytime and then nighttime for more work to survive.


But what kind of job were you then able to get?
Back then, local businesses within the community in Leicester would come and advertise jobs, part time jobs that students could take up. There was a marketing firm in Leicester that came to advertise on the job board in the library. This was an analyst role but not business analysis as a project management but it’s kind of management consulting tech role.


So while in Uni I will be in the marketing company doing like 9am – 5pm and then in the night I went to do a warehouse job. Because I didn’t have the limitation of 20 hours I could do as many things as possible. I had to do both jobs because I literally lost all my money and I was down to zero so I had to start from scratch.


Quick question, was that job the same level as your last job before you travelled , a promotion or you had to like start all over again…..
It was like same level because I used to report to the director. I was looking after things like business strategy for the company; in terms of what kind of products do they want to launch, what markets do they want to enter, you know what’s the best strategy for packaging the products or entering the market and things like that.


Those job boards in the university are they still available?
I mean this was 2008 so I have no idea what the environment looks like now anymore. I would want to imagine that there it is still there in one shape or form. I want to believe there will be better options now than it was.


Personally I was always looking for opportunities.


I think one thing to be very mindful of when you come to the UK is how you you set up; I mean opportunities you access depends on where and how you look for it. If you come to the UK as a student or as an immigrant and your focus is “I want to look for the next available care job” that is what you will get for sure. “I want to look for a warehouse job” that is what you will find. So I didn’t focus my attention on care jobs or warehouse jobs. I focused my attention first on professional jobs.


Nothing wrong with warehouse or care job. Just saying you will get those if you focus on those alone.

Running these three things, your school, your 9-5 job and warehouse job sounds like a lot at once.
It was tough. It was really really tough because those days I did the three at the time, I’ll probably catch just a few house sleep. It was tough and this didn’t end until September 2009.

So a whole year you were running that lifestyle?

7-8 months of that. About seven months because I didn’t get the job immediately.


When I finished Uni, I thought to myself what is the next step? I looked at Leicester and thought Leicester was a small city. I don’t think I would achieve what I wanted to achieve career wise, so I left the job and I moved to London. I didn’t have any job offer in London but luckily I had family in London

You didn’t have a job but just resigned?


Yes I went to London with no Job offer.

I will tell you a story.

One of the nights I was going for the warehouse shift, I met a guy; he had done his masters in the University of Leicester the year before me. We were going for the same shift as warehouse operators that night and I had just finished my masters degree that year. We got talking and he was saying “oh you know what? you can live so well here. If I was doing this kind of job in Nigeria I probably won’t be able to take care of myself with this job; but look at me, I can pay my rent, I can buy nice clothes, I can go out for lunch, I can go to the nightclub when I want to, you know life is nice and simple. This is okay!

I didn’t say anything. But I said to myself that night I must never remain this complacent. I must never get so comfortable with the warehouse job and think this is where I am getting my result. Because I don’t want to remain in Leicester then get complacent I knew I needed to move out of there. You know this is something I’ve always heard and I’ve always believed; you go as far you see as far or you access information as far as the people around you. I didn’t have a network of people that were aspiring for more, I didn’t have anybody around. The people I knew were mostly students and a lot of them were international students.

So how was life in London?

I stayed with family from November 2009 and I will just sleep, wake up and apply for jobs. That was my full time job; I could apply for a one hundred jobs per day. I literally will just apply non stop and at first nothing happened. I mean no interviews; a lot of sectors – healthcare, banking just name it, I applied for it all.

Even with the seven months of UK experience on your CV?

Yes. Then eventually I got this call in January 2010 of the following year and it was with Scottish Widows which at that time was part of Lloyds banking group. The recruiting agency asked me “would you be willing to travel down to Edinburgh for an interview” I said yes that’s fine no problem. At that time, all I had left for money was £70.

Wow

I went online for whatever cheap train ticket to Edinburgh I could find and I found one for £50. All I had left was £20. Meaning that if I got to Edinburgh and back and I didn’t get the job that was all I would have for money.

I was still on Princess Street in Edinburgh on my way back to London when the recruiting agency called me back asking how it went. I remember telling him I had no idea but we will see what they say. Literally five minutes after he called me says “they really like you to start immediately”. I got myself back to London, borrowed some money to move myself to Edinburgh and book an airbnb because I didn’t have an apartment to stay.

I was with Scottish widows for two years on a rolling contract.

At that time how much was it then per day as a contractor?

Back in 2010 it was £350 per day for the first 12 months and then they increased the rate to about £400 per day.

This is somebody coming from almost zero and suddenly you are earning lots of money………

My spending became very very conservative and I am still the same till date.

Going back to my journey, when I finished uni I had no particular intention of doing contracting. However again back to when I said that the kind of people you surround yourself there is a part of the journey story I missed that is very very important.

When leaving Leicester and realised I needed to surround myself with people that are professionals, I had friends some friends who had worked in Nigeria and who had been in the UK before myself. What I used to do was that while I was applying for jobs I would do up my CV and send it to them for feedback; “what do you think about this? what changes should I make? what can I do to this that will make it attractive to an agent or an employer?”

They will help me with my CV and other things. I mean I had quite a bit of banking experience in Nigeria so I wasn’t a green horn in terms of work experience I just didn’t have a lot of UK experience.

I knew my stuff but I think because I haven’t done it in the UK, I was missing something. My experience in Leicester was not financial services. It was marketing and definitely not related to what I actually wanted to do.

So what I will do then was that, when these my friends go to work in the morning & come back in the evening, I will go to their place and ask them to tell me “what is your day like? Run me through your day? What did you do what project did you work on? What tasks did you do? can you bring me some of the outputs let me see what kind of documentation you guys produce? and as they were walking me through that, I was picking up the Lingo because it was different from what I was used to. I’ll review the documentation and I would digest them. From all those conversations I could actually then begin to build work scenarios in my head so when I step into an interview and they ask me to tell them about my experience I’m telling them about my experience in the language of my friends experiences. The interviewers will feel like okay this person appears to have UK banking experience because I understood and spoke the lingo.

That was the method I used to break into into the UK marketplace because I wanted to build my career in financial services.

How many years in total did you do contracting for?

So I joined RBS 2013 and I was there up until 2017 , after RBS I went to Aberdeen standard investment. So six years totally for contracting or so . But while I was in Aberdeen Standard Investment I started my accounting practice on the side.

I have a question, I mean contracting; by that time you would been doing upward like £500 to £600 a day. Why did you leave? Why did you decide to set up your own practice?

While I was at RBS, there was a guy, Nathan, we were contracting together then. He is from Jamaican origin and he used to tell me a lot about how he was into properties. He would buy properties do them up and rent them out.

We became good friends and I used to share my new experience in buying stocks. He would say “we’re contracting and we’re getting good cash flow, that is great but what exactly is the next level? You know we can’t just sit here and just get comfortable? What if contracts don’t get renewed or if the business landscape changes, what next?”

I was like you know we need to kind of explore opportunities for financial freedom. I remember saying why don’t we do properties and why don’t we do stocks. Before now I mostly followed the crowd and we discussed about getting things done properly. We started buying books about stocks and that’s when I came across a book called Buffettology; detailed analysis on how Warren Buffet used to go about his investments and one thing struck me.

He said the key to wealth was owning businesses and that was when my mindset shifted away from contracting. I decided it was time to build my own business.

So I tried with one client to test the hypothesis. One client became two, two became four, became 10 and then became 15 and just grew gradually like that without any any form of marketing or advertisement.

Yeah I was still contracting but the more the business grew the more frustrated I got with contracting because the managers just started to irritate me. You know it gets to a point where it is not they are bad people or they’re annoying people but because your mindset is now changing, you are moving from an employee mindset into a business owner mindset so you begin to become uncomfortable in an employment state. You begin to feel that discomfort in your being, like you’re being caged. I wanted and could do more.

I think the tipping point for me was when I was at Aberdeen Life and it became a really toxic work environment and literally people were resigning every other week. The managers were horrible, I have never had that kind of experience before.

You went on to build your business, I want to assume that in that journey of you changing jobs and building your business you made your first purchase of your property?

Yes that is correct. 1 year and 11 months after. I bought a two bedroom semi detached house. In the time leading up to buying the house I was saving enough deposit such that by the time I put that deposit into house purchase my monthly mortgage payment would not exceed what I was paying in rent.

I saved up so much that what I was paying in mortgage was about £500 pounds monthly. I didn’t want my outgoing to change after the mortgage for the house.

That’s a very smart move. You had your deposit for the house, you bought a house. Which other money moves did you make? I want to assume that you also started doing a lot of investment as well?

No heavy investments at the time when I bought the house. It started after the house because I was studying and doing some more research.

After I got the house and I started to dabble into investing gradually. It was at that point I also got myself a brand new car . Something I was quite reluctant about.

You were reluctant ?

I think I was so affected by using all my money that I became extremely prudent because in my head I was like I never want to find myself in that situation I had zero.

But this brand new car, was it in cash or it was on higher purchase?

If I remember correctly I was paying about three hundred and fifty pounds a month on a higher purchase financing.

Oh wow I mean considering that your income was significant that’s that’s another good stuff as well.

Looking back at your journey it sounds like you are making a lot of really good money decisions. You are not outrageous in your spending, you are making all the right choices. So aside from not investing in just Nigerian stocks what are the other mistakes that you think you did in your entire journey?

I think the Nigerian investment was the single most devastating money mistake I made and since then whenever I’m doing something I have to make sure I get it right. I am very slow to act, before making any decisions.

That sounds reasonable. I have two questions: Do you think that you are finally settled in as an immigrant and what is your next financial goal?

Settling, yes. I would say most definitely yes I am very settled.

In terms of next financial goal, it is just to continue building businesses; multiple business not just one. Because what I’ve found and learned is, this is from Warren Buffett again, his preferences to own businesses. Stocks give you portion of a business but owning the whole business is better. What I do actively now is look for businesses to either start or acquire. I have managed to diligently build the accounting practice from scratch and it is doing quite well. Now I understand how to build a business from scratch. I have also now built a logistics business from scratch and this is also in the UK.

So far this is what I have learnt: build a business to sustain you and the family, add the second business and this second one is just pure cash flow that you can then use to either start new businesses or acquire new businesses or invest or do whatever you need.

What you are describing to me is actually quite interesting, so your first business is the one that takes care of your everyday needs; your rent, your feeding the family, but the second businesses is for cash flow and acquisition of more businesses…..

That is correct. I built the Accounting Practice that allowed me to start a Logistics Business which started in 2021. The logistics business broke even in two to three months. I pulled out all the capital invested in it so now it’s running on its own. That capital that was used and pulled out is now being used to acquire properties. Now it’s the second business that is providing the cash flow for other businesses.

I am trying to mirror Warren Buffet’s approach to building wealth but at a much much smaller scale of course.

In all of this journey from 2008 and this is 2023 you’ve gotten married, you have two kids now. Are you as conservative as before or your spending habit has changed?

In my perspective, it is still conservative. My wife would tell you it remains extremely conservative and the reason is this; I been on the side where I’ve gone from 100 to 0 that was manageable because it was just me. Now I have two kids I can’t afford to go from 100 to 0. It’s just the way my brain works for safety and precaution.

This is for immigrants that will read this, one advice or two pieces of advice you would you say to them?

I would say make sure you have a goal and a vision. Don’t let anything deter you from it, no matter how challenging it is. At the start see whatever you can latch on to as the stepping stone to that ultimate vision. However with your vision, allow yourself flexibility because visions change. The more you learn and the more your vision is likely to change in a finer direction. When I got to the UK my focus was academics and being a banking professional at the top of the chain of my career.

That was my vision but I as I began the banking career, I started to learn, read, and research my vision changed from being an employee to someone running businesses and being an employer. If I don’t allow myself some flexibility; I mean being at the top of the chain in banking is not a bad thing itself but I think I found myself in a much better space than being the MD of a bank.

Thanks OOM. This was great conversation and hearing about your journey is inspiring.


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The Female Immigrants Money Chronicles

Let’s go back to my early days as an Immigrant and why I have chosen to share Money tips every week with immigrants.

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Back to my story.

In 2017, I left Lagos Nigeria for a Scholarship sponsored MBA at the Edinburgh Business School (Heriot-Watt University). This was a dual country 1-year course, meaning I spent a number of months in Dubai for some classes/workshops/project work and the rest of it in Edinburgh.

My MBA concentration was in Entrepreneurship and I got the opportunity to stay back after the conclusion of the program to join the newly created Business Incubator by the Heriot-Watt University Edinburgh Business.

I was developing a business, a wedding gift registry, for cash gifts only. Something I had started before I left Nigeria. It eventually failed and I went back to full-time employment. Story for another day.

This is now 5 years plus in the UK and as an immigrant, I wish someone or some people had shared/documented the money/financial lessons I will share over the next couple of weeks.

Because while I landed in the UK with some good enough savings and took up a part-time job while in school and while building my business, I ended up broke.

I mean so broke that I didn’t have money to buy food.

I remember going into my part-time job most days praying someone is celebrating something so they can share some snacks. That was my only hope at a meal for the day.

And there was the period I was wearing torn clothing because I couldn’t afford to buy new ones. So I did a lot of patching up or leaving the tear if it was not in a visible spot.

You may ask:

* But you were on a scholarship?

* But you were working part-time?

* What happened to all the savings you came with?

* Didn’t you have a family to support you?

* Didn’t you have friends that could help?

They are very valid questions. And I will answer them all as I share in the coming weeks.

It was indeed a tough season and I am glad that season of my life is over.

I don’t know you (at least not yet) but I know one thing is common between us, we made the tough decision to leave our family, friends and everything we know in our home country to make the move to a new country. I am glad I am in a good place where I can look back and share the lessons that helped turn the tide around for me so you – the female or male who has chosen to go and live in another country, can begin to build that legacy for your next generation.

I plan to share very relatable and simple-to-understand money tips every week so make sure you subscribe. I promise you will learn so much!

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Anu

Want to build a Career in Digital Tech? I have created an Online Course

While in the 2020 famous lock down I baked multiple recipes of banana bread and I ate them all. Alone.

Like many, food was the comfort we ran to as coping mechanism. I know, what you will say next, the calories! O yes I know but we shall discuss that another day. Maybe.

After many weeks/months of food binging, I put the many free hours I found for myself to good use. Finally you would say!

On the back of the feedback I received from participants who attended the virtual session held in June 2020, I created a deep dive course on how to build a career in Tech.

When I say deep dive, I mean I shared:

  1. How I began my Digital Tech Career from a core commercial banking background.
  2. Skillset required for the digital tech space: soft Skills and Industry Specific soft skills.
  3. Roles within the Digital Tech industry and what exactly they do.
  4. Getting some work experiences and certifications.

I was very detailed in this course. So that someone with no technology background can understand and begin to navigate building career in this industry.

The course is uploaded on Udemy and comes at a cost.

But if you are reading this and will like to access the course for free, please drop a comment and I will share the free access. But in return I ask you leave a review.

A number of students have accessed this course and they believe it was great. See some their reviews below.

Do you still have questions? Please ask me!

Chatbots – Beyond Customer Service

Not sure where I got the idea from, but somewhere in my head, I thought chatbots were an AI agent to reduce the pressure on customer service centers/agents only.

I have been schooled. Well, not the so hard way.

I kicked off the year getting engaged with leading on the Product side of a chatbot related project. And I have found myself getting drawn into the delivery of chatbots in various forms:  The first,  building a custom chatbot solutions from the ground up (Started building with Dialogflow and had to change to Azure Bot service), customization of a template (we went with intercom Custom bots ), and in the last two weeks I proposed/presented the need for a chatbot as part of an interview process.

In my short experience, I have discovered this AI agent can deliver:

  • Improved Marketing experience – AR (augmented reality) & VR (virtual reality) is fast becoming a big-budget center for innovative web/mobile-based marketing campaigns. With its natural language processing (NLP) capabilities, creating an immersive experience for customers could never be better. Its ability to replicate a human creates an avenue for creative marketing managers to develop and implement an experience with a product or service just as they would with any experiential marketing activation.

A much-needed innovation given the current climate of social distancing.

  • Customer Acquisition – Heighten the willingness and probability of the customer buying your item or signing up for your service. A chatbot is able to make informed, targeted suggestions about what to buy, increasing the chance of a sale. Take a peep at some global e-commerce sites and how they are using this. Little wonder some giant Fashion retailers are constantly investing majorly in improving this.

 

  • Data & Analytics – It goes without saying with this one. As a customer interacts with the chatbot, you are able to build unique profiling which then becomes a great ground to understanding your customers and allow you to continually measure, analyze, and refine customer engagement strategies. Much better is its capabilities in helping you as a business owner to predict what your customer wants before they ask for it – predictive analytics.

 

  • Cost Savings – Predictive analysis means you are spending less time developing and launching what your customers do not want – effective use of R&D budget. FAQs answered by the bots means your customer service agents are spending more time tackling more complex issues for customers- better use of man-hours.

Should I go on?

 

Without a doubt, I have had (and still having) a great time becoming somewhat of a specialist with conversational AI. I look forward to more opportunities to use this to help businesses make processes smarter and more sustainable for long term growth.